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Mark in Caerleon
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Posted - 15 Mar 2005 :  20:09:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone
Anyone who uses pigeon manure out there ? We have the possibility of having some delivered from a private keeper. I have trawled the web and found its a great compost activator ( HDRA ), can make a rich soluble feed - or this is where i want to pick your brains - if rotted and odourless - a rich manure. How long and how is the best way to rot it down so the urea has gone and won't scorch my plants ? Your experiences would be a real help !

Gavin
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Posted - 18 Mar 2005 :  16:05:52  Show Profile  Visit Gavin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Mark - I'd mix it with normal compost stuff or with high carbon (straw, paper, cardboard) and compost.

If you have enough of both (the manure, and the strawy stuff), I'd be tempted to do it in a separate pile from the compost heap, however. The first lot of bags I had were brilliant in my normal heap. The second lot I had were bags of variegated sludge, some with a red "cat-litter" type of substance, and rotted away very little - I didn't see the pigeon-keeper again as we moved from that site, but I wonder if he'd been feeding his birds some anti-biotics or de-wormers? I'll never know!

All best - Gavin

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aylett
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Posted - 18 Mar 2005 :  20:21:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gavin
Sorry to intrude on the discussion

Can you help - What has happened to allotments 4 all. Everyone has disappeared, marianne and myself have re registered, but the whole web site appears to have been set up from new.

Thanks

Lady of the land
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bigron2000
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Mar 2005 :  20:51:40  Show Profile  Click to see bigron2000's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hello there Mark, I am a new member , just joined today , have been having a look around an came across your question on Pigion Manure.
Well I have been using it for about three years now and I always start off by putting it on the compost heap, as said it is a good activator and always gives me a good compost, mine is always full of sand , grit, and sawdust which is all okay for the heap. My only advise would be to do as I do, dont put it on your land raw. Dont forget the pigeons when you have any lettice going to seed , they love it , my friend who gives me the manure says he hangs them up for them on o piece of string and they finish them off in no time.Bye now , happy gardening.
Ron Grant Filey, North Yorkshire.

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Mark in Caerleon
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Posted - 23 Mar 2005 :  18:32:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replies - much appreciated.

I am also considering leaving some in the bags for a year to see how it turns out - supposedly very rich. I'll let you know this time next year............ :- )

Any more experiences very welcome.
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bigron2000
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Posted - 23 Mar 2005 :  20:05:32  Show Profile  Click to see bigron2000's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Mark
Let me know how its goes after a year in bags, I bet it will stink , mine does if I leave it too long in the bags, hold your breath when you are getting it out.
Did you know that some of it contains ground up oyster shells and aniseed?, they give it tio the pigeons to clean them out.
I have stopped fetcjhing it in my car now, it stinks the car out, I fetch it in the wheel barrow, bit of a bind ,but I still think its worth it, can't be good breathing all them fumes in, might end up with a medical problem.
Bye for now.
Ron Grant Filey North Yorkshire

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travena
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Posted - 29 Mar 2005 :  22:50:23  Show Profile  Visit travena's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Mark

There are Manure Degrader available in the farming industry, which breaks down chicken, cow, horse or pig manure to high quality fertiliser, without burning your plants in 30 to 60 days depending on weather. The normal time would be up to 18 months to mature any manure.

This is done through Microorganismen, who are selected and concentrated in this treatment, which is the natural way,

check: http://www.travena.co.uk/manure_degrader.htm
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