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 What soil/compost to put in my Butcombe Box???
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Tangent
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Posted - 13 Mar 2006 :  02:06:05  Show Profile  Visit Tangent's Homepage  Send Tangent an ICQ Message  Click to see Tangent's MSN Messenger address  Send Tangent a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Can anyone help with my latest dilemma?

I have built an edged bed to sit inside another edged bed. I have just got the mesh to staple to the base of this frame (I have chosen greenhouse shading - a strong plastic mesh of very tiny holes). I then intend to attach guttering all around the top of the frame.

The idea is that you fill the bed with clean soil and keep the guttering filled with water. The slugs can't get up through the mesh but the water can drain away through it and the slugs can't get across the guttering without drowning in the water.

It is a large bed for a Butcombe Box about 3' x 8' and I intend to use it as a seedbed as well as grow some lettuces in it.

Not sure what to fill it with though. Would be VERY expensive to fill it full of bought compost. Would rather use a mix of compost and top soil but not sure if I can guarantee that the top soil would be free of slugs and slug eggs.


If anyone has any ideas I'd be very pleased to hear them.
Thanks for reading,
Lois





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maidstonemike
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Posted - 13 Mar 2006 :  08:33:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could water it with Jeyes fliud.
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Dave n dogs
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Posted - 13 Mar 2006 :  10:13:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Slugs live in the soil so they will just pop under your edging boards.
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johnslottie
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Posted - 13 Mar 2006 :  10:38:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can't see how you'll keep slugs out, even if the netting stops the bigger ones, the smaller ones will get through somewhere. They can squeeze through suprisingly small gaps.

A neighbour of mine swears by Jeyes fluid, waters his caulis, carrots etc weekly with it, and although he is a very fit old boy, still doing a 3 mile walk every morning, I'm not too keen on the idea myself.



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Tangent
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Posted - 14 Mar 2006 :  04:19:04  Show Profile  Visit Tangent's Homepage  Send Tangent an ICQ Message  Click to see Tangent's MSN Messenger address  Send Tangent a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your help guys but not sure that you realise exactly what I'm after.

I know it works cos there is an example at the HDRA gardens at Ryton. My problem is finding 'soil' to fill the bed with.

Does anyone know if bought top soil is likely to contain slugs or eggs? It would be slightly cheaper than using all purchased potting compost.





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pinsrap
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Posted - 14 Mar 2006 :  09:39:20  Show Profile  Visit pinsrap's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tangent, most pre-packed topsoil from garden centres is sterilised, so I would assume that this would kill off any slug eggs within. (At least I hope so as I have just put four bags worth into my greenhouse beds). Have seen the Butcombe Boxes in the HDRA encyclopedia (fantstic book for anything Organic), and may try them myself if the frogs don't work.



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bobthepipe
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Posted - 14 Mar 2006 :  11:26:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just a shot in the dark but, if you a sugarbeet or food proccessing plant near you I believe they use steam to clean the veg so a trailer of soil from them should be pretty safe.
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mcommon
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Posted - 16 Mar 2006 :  19:59:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tangent

Can anyone help with my latest dilemma?

I have built an edged bed to sit inside another edged bed. I have just got the mesh to staple to the base of this frame (I have chosen greenhouse shading - a strong plastic mesh of very tiny holes). I then intend to attach guttering all around the top of the frame.

The idea is that you fill the bed with clean soil and keep the guttering filled with water. The slugs can't get up through the mesh but the water can drain away through it and the slugs can't get across the guttering without drowning in the water.

It is a large bed for a Butcombe Box about 3' x 8' and I intend to use it as a seedbed as well as grow some lettuces in it.

Not sure what to fill it with though. Would be VERY expensive to fill it full of bought compost. Would rather use a mix of compost and top soil but not sure if I can guarantee that the top soil would be free of slugs and slug eggs.


If anyone has any ideas I'd be very pleased to hear them.
Thanks for reading,
Lois





The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the
same level of thinking we were at when we created them
Albert Einstein

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The HDRA encyclopedia says you can use soil then treat it with the nematode phasmarhabditis hermaphrodita. They say to use a "porous membrane" for the base.
Hope this is useful

Edited by - mcommon on 16 Mar 2006 20:03:55
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NoForknGood
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Posted - 16 Apr 2006 :  20:11:23  Show Profile  Visit NoForknGood's Homepage  Click to see NoForknGood's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Blimey, try saying that with a Rowntree's fruit pastel in your gob

What have you done in the end Lois?

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